John 17:5 (WEB)
Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed.
Catechism · 1
“His priestly prayer fulfills, from within, the great petitions of the Lord's Prayer: concern for the Father's name; passionate zeal for his kingdom (Glory);” — Catechism footnote: Cf. Jn 17:1, 5, 10, 22, 23-26.
Fathers and councils · 55
Irenaeus of Lyons
“For not alone antecedently to Adam, but also before all creation, the Word glorified His Father, remaining in Him; and was Himself glorified by the Father, as He did Himself declare, “Father, glorify Thou Me with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
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Athanasius of Alexandria
“And if, as they say, He had His promotion now, how did the Son Himself make mention of that His glory before and above the world, when He said, ‘Glorify Thou Me, O Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.’” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
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“And when He asked glory, He was as He is, the Lord of glory; as Paul says, ‘If they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;’ for He had that glory which He asked when He said, ‘the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.’” — editor's note: Joh. xvii. 5.
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John Damascene
“Others again are for the purpose of revealing Him to us and strengthening our faith, as, And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with the glory which I had with Thee, before the world was.” — editor's note: St. John. xvii. 5.
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Cyril of Jerusalem
“…but of Christ before all time, as He saith, And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“And again He saith to the Father, And now, Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” — editor's note: Ib. xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“Not that He was without glory before: for He was glorified with the glory which was before the foundation of the world.” — editor's note: Ib. xvii. 5.
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Theodoret of Cyrus
““‘Glorify me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.’” — editor's note: John xvii. 5
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Hippolytus of Rome
“And it is for this reason that, when He had assumed, by divine arrangement, the lowly estate of humanity, He said, “Father, glorify me with the glory which I had,” etc. For He who was co-existent with His Father before all time. and before the foundation of the world, always had the glory proper to Godhead.” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
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Ambrose of Milan
“The Father loves the Son, and you anxiously examine His Person; the Father is well pleased in Him, you, joining the Jews, look upon Him with an evil eye; the Father knows the Son, and you join the heathen in reviling Him.” — editor's note: S. John v. 22, 23; iii. 35; xvii. 1, 2, 5.
Read the whole comment“Or, if we suppose some other light, beside the Light of the Godhead, to be the unapproachable Light, is, then, this Light better than the Father, so that He is not in that Light, Who, as it is written, is both with the Father and in the Father?” — editor's note: S. John i. 1; xvii. 5, 21.
Read the whole comment“For that which is the Father’s, by fitness to His majesty, is also the Son’s, by unity in the same glory.” — editor's note: S. John xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“But not only is the Son glorified through the Father and by the Father, as it is written: “Glorify Me, Father;” and again: “Now hath the Son of Man been glorified, and God hath been glorified in Him, and God glorifieth Him,” but the Father also is glorified through the…” — editor's note: S. John xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“Consider the whole of this passage, and see from what standpoint He speaks; for thou hearest Him saying: “Father, glorify Thou Me with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.”” — editor's note: S. John xvii. 5.
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Augustine of Hippo
““Thou art He who will restore to Me My inheritance:” that to these too, whom I free, may be known “the glory wherein I was with Thee before the world was made.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“The Lord hear Thee in the day in which Thou saidst, “Father glorify Thy Son.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 5 and xii. 28.
Read the whole comment“But what is life eternal, except “that they may know Thee,” He says, “the One true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent?” but know Him now in that glory of which He says to the Father, “Which I had with Thee before the world was.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 3–5
Read the whole comment“Not so do I who say to the Father, “Father, glorify Thou me with that glory which I had with Thee before the world was.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 5.
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John Chrysostom
“Ver.” — the author cites it
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Gregory of Nyssa
“Neither does He lie Who saith, “Them that glorify Me I glorify”; and “I have glorified Thee,” is said by our Lord to the Father; and again He says, “Glorify Thou Me with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.”” — editor's note: S. John xvii. 5
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Hilary of Poitiers
“He shall hear the words, The Father is greater than I, and I go to the Father, and Father, I thank Thee, and Glorify Me, Father, and Thou art the Son of the living God.” — editor's note: Ib. xvii. 5.
Read the whole comment“I have manifested Thy Name unto the men whom Thou hast given Me.” — editor's note: Ib. xvii. 1–6.
Read the whole comment“…confessions by the Son of the humiliation to which He has submitted in taking a body upon Him,—as for instance His words, often repeated, Father, glorify Me, and Ye shall see the Son of Man, and The Father is greater than I, and, more strongly, Now is My soul troubled exceedingly, and even this, My God, My God, why…” — editor's note: St. John xvii. 5; cf. xiii. 32, xvi. 14, xvii. 1.
Read the whole comment“And then, that we might know the reward of His obedience, and the secret purpose of the whole divine plan, He continued, And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” — editor's note: Ib. 5.
Read the whole comment“Nor, when He asks that He may be glorified, is it in any way a glorifying of His divine nature, but of the lower nature He assumed: for He asks for that glory which He had with God before the world was made.” — editor's note: St. John xvii. 5.
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Catena Aurea on Matthew
- Pseudo-AthanasiusCatena Aurea on Matthew
“He says further, (let Photinus hear his words,) “Father, glorify Me with that glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” [John 17:5]” — the author cites it
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Cyprian of Carthage
“And now, do Thou glorify me with Thyself, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was made.”” — editor's note: John xvii. 3–5.
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Catena Aurea on John
- John ChrysostomCatena Aurea on John
After having said, In the world ye shall have tribulation, our Lord turns from admonition to prayer; thus teaching us in our tribulations to abandon all other things, and flee to God.
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These things spake Jesus, those things that He had said at the supper, partly sitting as far as the words, Arise, let us go hence; (c. 14:31.) and thence standing, up to the end of the hymn which now commences, And…
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He lifted up His eyes to heaven to teach us intentness in our prayers: that we should stand with uplifted eyes, not of the body only, but of the mind.
Read the whole comment - Augustine of HippoCatena Aurea on John
Our Lord, in the form of a servant, could have prayed in silence had He pleased; but He remembered that He had not only to pray, but to teach. For not only His discourse, but His prayer also, was for His disciples’…
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He doth not say that the day, or the time, but that the hour is come. An hour contains a portion of a day. What was this hour? He was now to be spit upon, scourged, crucified. But the Father glorifies the Son. The…
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But if He was glorified by His Passion, how much more by His Resurrection? For His Passion rather shewed His humility than His glory. So we must understand, Father, the hour is come, glorify Thy Son, to mean, the…
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But perhaps this proves weakness in the Son; His waiting to be glorified by one superior to Himself. And who does not confess that the Father is superior, seeing that He Himself saith, The Father is greater than I?…
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But it is justly asked, how the Son can glorify the Father, when the eternal glory of the Father never experienced abasement in the form of man, and in respect of its own Divine perfection, does not admit of being…
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For being made flesh Himself, He was about to restore eternal life to frail, corporeal, and mortal man.
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If Christ be God, not begotten, but unbegotten, then let this receiving be thought weakness. But not if His receiving of power signifies His begetting, in which He received what He is. This gift cannot be counted for…
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He saith, Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, to shew that His preaching extended not to the Jews only, but to the whole world. But what is all flesh? For all did not believe? So far as lay with Him, all did.…
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He saith, As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, so the Son may glorify Thee, i. e. make Thee known to all flesh which Thou hast given Him; for Thou hast so given it to Him, that He should give eternal life to…
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And in what eternal life is, He then shews: And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God. To know the only true God is life, but this alone does not constitute life. What else then is added?…
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The Arians hold, that as the Father is the only true, only just, only wise God, the Son hath no communion of these attributes; for that which is proper to one, cannot be partaken of by another. And as these are as…
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But it must be clear to every one that the reality of any thing is evidenced by its power. For that is true wheat, which when rising with grain and fenced with ears, and shaken out by the winnowing machine, and…
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Because He says, Thee the only, does He separate Himself from communion and unity with God? He doth separate Himself, but that He adds immediately, And Jesus Christ Whom Thou hast sent. For the Catholic faith…
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Dismissing then the Arians, let us see if we are forced to confess, that by the words, That they may know Thee to be the only true God, He means us to understand that the Father only is the true God, in such sense as…
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Or is not the order of the words, That they may know Thee and Jesus Christ, Whom Thou hast sent, to be the only true God? the Holy Spirit being necessarily understood, because the Spirit is only the love of the…
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What He said to His servant Moses, I am that I am; (Exod. 3) this we shall contemplate in the life eternal.
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For when sight has made our faith truth, then eternity shall take possession of and displace our mortality.
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But God is first glorified here, when He is proclaimed, made known to, and believed in, by men: I have glorified Thee on the earth.
Read the whole comment - Hilary of PoitiersCatena Aurea on John
This new glory with which our Lord had glorified the Father, does not imply any advancement2 in Godhead, but refers to the honour received from those who are converted from ignorance to knowledge.
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He says, on the earth; for He had been glorified in heaven, both in respect of the glory of His own nature, and of the adoration of the Angels. The glory therefore here spoken of is not that which belongeth to His…
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Not Thou commandest Me, but, Thou gavest Me, implying evidently grace. For what hath human nature, even in the Only-Begotten, what it hath not received? But how had He finished the work which had been given Him to…
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Or, I have finished, i. e. He had done all His own part, or had done the chief of it, that standing for the whole; (for the root of good was planted:) or He connects Himself with the future, as if it were already…
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After which, that we may understand the reward of His obedience, and the mystery of the whole dispensation, He adds, And now glorify Me with the glory with Thine own Self, with the glory which I had with Thee before…
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He had said above, Father, the hour is come; glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son also may glorify Thee: the order of which words shews that the Son was first to be glorified by the Father, that the Father might be…
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Or He prayed that that which was mortal, might receive the glory immortal, that the corruption of the flesh might be transformed and absorbed into the incorruption of the Spirit.
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Cross-references · 17
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Augustine of Hippo on John 17:1–5 (6) (Catena Aurea).
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Pseudo-Athanasius on Matthew 1:1 (Catena Aurea).
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Exposition of the Christian Faith III.12.
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
Cited together in Pseudo-Athanasius on Matthew 1:1 (Catena Aurea).
Cited together in Against Heresies IV.14.
