John 17:12 (WEB)
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name. I have kept those whom you have given me. None of them is lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.
Catechism · 1
“His priestly prayer fulfills, from within, the great petitions of the Lord's Prayer: concern for the Father's name;” — Catechism footnote: Cf. Jn 17:6, 11, 12, 26.
Fathers and councils · 21
Gregory of Nyssa
“For in Scripture the term “child of wrath” is used, and “son of perdition,” and “product of a viper;” and in such names surely no community of nature is apparent.” — editor's note: S. John xvii. 12.
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Irenaeus of Lyons
“Besides, the Lord also declared regarding him, “Woe to the man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed;” and, “It were better for him if he had never been born;” and he was called the “son of perdition” by Him.” — editor's note: John xvii. 12.
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Jerome
“xvii. 12.” — the author cites it
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John Chrysostom
“Ver.” — the author cites it
Read the whole comment“And so the Evangelist, to show that it did not come to pass through their intention, but by the power and decree of Him whom they had seized, has added, “That the saying might be fulfilled which He spake,” that “not one, &c.” ( c. xvii. 12.)” — the author cites it
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Hilary of Poitiers
“Thus John, who especially brings out the working of spiritual causes in the Gospel, preserves this prayer of the Lord for the Apostles, which all the others passed over: how He prayed, namely, Holy Father, keep them in Thy Name.…while I was them I kept them in Thy Name: those whom Thou gavest Me I have kept.” — editor's note: St. John xvii. 11, 12. Hilary omits after ‘keeping them in Thy Name,’ the words ‘which Thou hast given Me, that they may be one even as We are One.’
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Leo the Great
“But O ungodliest of men, “thou seed of Chanaan and not of Juda,” and no longer “a vessel of election,” but “a son of perdition” and death, thou didst think the devil’s instigations would profit thee better, so that,…” — editor's note: Apocrypha, Hist. of Susanna, v. 56: said by Daniel to one of the two elders; cf. also Acts ix. 15, and S. John xvii. 12.
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Augustine of Hippo
“…I kept them in Thy name: those that Thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled” (ver. 12); meaning Judas, who betrayed Him, for He was the only one of the apostolic twelve that perished.” — the author cites it
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Catena Aurea on John
- John ChrysostomCatena Aurea on John
As the disciples were still sad in spite of all our Lord’s consolations, henceforth He addresses Himself to the Father to shew the love which He had for them; I pray for them; He not only gives them what He has of…
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When He adds, I pray not for the world, by the world He means those who live according to the lust of the world, and have not the lot to be chosen by grace out of the world, as those had for whom He prayed: But for…
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He often repeats, Thou hast given Me, to impress on them that it was all according to the Father’s will, and that He did not come to rob another, but to take unto Him His own. Then to shew them that this power1 had…
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It is sufficiently apparent from hence, that all things which the Father hath, the Only-Begotten Son hath; hath in that He is God, born from the Father, and equal with the Father; not in the sense in which the elder…
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Then He gives proof of this, I am glorified in them. If they glorify Me, believing in Me and Thee, it is certain that I have power over them: for no one is glorified by those amongst whom he has no power.
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He speaks of this as already done, meaning that it was predestined, and sure to be. But is this the glorifying of which He speaks above, And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own Self? If then with Thyself,…
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And now I am no more in the world: i. e. though I no longer appear in the flesh, I am glorified by those who die for Me, as for the Father, and preach Me as the Father.
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At the time at which He was speaking, both were still in the world. Yet we must not understand, I am no more in the world, metaphorically of the heart and life; for could there ever have been a time when He loved the…
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He does not say, That I and they maybe one, though He might have said so in the sense, that He was the head of the Church, and the Church His body; not one thing, but one person: the head and the body being one…
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Again He speaks as man: While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Thy name; i. e. by Thy help. He speaks in condescension to the minds of His disciples, who thought they were more safe in His presence.
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The Son as man kept His disciples in the Father’s name, being placed among them in human form: the Father again kept them in the Son’s name, in that He heard those who asked in the Son’s name. But we must not take…
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He was the only one indeed who perished then, but there were many after. None of them is lost, i. e. as far as I am concerned; as He says above more clearly; I will in no wise cast out. But when they cast themselves…
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Or thus: That they might have the joy spoken of above: That they may be one, as We are one. This His joy, i. e. bestowed by Him, He says, is to be fulfilled in them: on which account He spoke thus in the world. This…
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Cross-references · 15
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Eunomius III.6.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Eunomius III.6.
Cited together in Against Eunomius III.6.
Cited together in Against Eunomius III.6.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Eunomius III.6.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Against Heresies II.20.
Cited together in Augustine of Hippo on John 17:9–13 (2) (Catena Aurea).
